Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/23/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 222 PROTECTION OF PERSONAL INFORMATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 284 SENTENCING FOR ALCOHOL-RELATED CRIMES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 274 PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSSHB 274(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= SB 206 DETENTION OF MATERIAL WITNESSES
Moved CSSB 206(FIN) Out of Committee
9:06:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 206(JUD)                                                                                            
     "An Act relating to contempt of court and to temporary                                                                     
     detention and identification of persons."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was the  second hearing for this bill in  the Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved for adoption  of CS SB 206, 24-LS1197\X, as                                                               
a working document.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:07:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde noted  that Co-Chair  Green requested  this change                                                               
that  relates to  photographing  and  fingerprinting of  material                                                               
witnesses.   This  change   would  provide   that  use   of  this                                                               
information   is  limited   to  the   proper  identification   of                                                               
individuals  and that  the fingerprints  would be  destroyed once                                                               
the specified purpose had been served.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:08:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green noted  that  this provision  is  akin to  current                                                               
procedure followed for other practices.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:08:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  reminded of  the question  raised at  the previous                                                               
hearing relating to material witness statutes of other states.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:09:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROB HEUN,  Deputy Chief,  Anchorage Police  Department, testified                                                               
via  teleconference from  an offnet  location  that police  often                                                               
find that  witnesses at a crime  scene are influenced by  fear or                                                               
peer pressure. Many would provide  information but were concerned                                                               
about repercussions from the "people  they have to live with". If                                                               
required  by law  to provide  information, these  witnesses would                                                               
have  "cop  cover"  to  justify their  actions  to  others.  When                                                               
talking  with witnesses,  officers  observe individuals  mentally                                                               
assessing the possible risks and  repercussions when making their                                                               
determination about whether they would cooperate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:10:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Hoffman  asked   the   reason   both  photographs   and                                                               
fingerprinting of material witnesses is necessary.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:11:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Heun  replied that fingerprints  would allow  confirmation of                                                               
identification.  Photographs  provide  an expeditious  method  to                                                               
locate the witness to serve a subpoena.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:12:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  understood the purpose of  obtaining either prints                                                               
or a photograph;  however, both could be excessive.  He asked the                                                               
number  of other  states that  allow law  enforcement to  require                                                               
both from a material witness.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:12:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Heun did  not know the number of other  states. He considered                                                               
the amount of time required  to fingerprint and take a photograph                                                               
as insignificant.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:13:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  recalled  that   the  vehicles  utilized  by  the                                                               
Anchorage Police  Department have equipment that  allows officers                                                               
to  take photographs  and fingerprints.  He asked  the length  of                                                               
time necessary to secure both.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:13:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Heun  assured the person  would be detained only  long enough                                                               
to obtain  the information provided  for in this bill.  If events                                                               
prevented officers  from processing  a witness  immediately, that                                                               
person could  not be expected  to remain  at the scene.  He noted                                                               
that although possible suspects could  be directed to "stand over                                                               
there" to await  further questioning, the burden  would be placed                                                               
on law enforcement to expedite processing of a material witness.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:14:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson surmised  such  processing  of material  witnesses                                                               
would require hours rather than days and weeks.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:14:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Heun affirmed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:14:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson asked  the process  of detaining  a witness  for a                                                               
longer period if police had reason  to suspect a witness would be                                                               
subjected  to  intimidation  or   harm,  or  would  otherwise  be                                                               
unwilling to cooperate.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:15:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Heun  responded that an  arrest warrant would be  required to                                                               
detain  a   person  any  longer  than   necessary  for  obtaining                                                               
identification information. Such a  warrant would be difficult to                                                               
secure if the person was not a suspect in the crime.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:15:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  asked if  the  process  for obtaining  a  warrant                                                               
includes presenting the situation to a judge.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:15:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Heun affirmed,  but  stressed  this action  would  not be  a                                                               
preferred option.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:16:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEAN GUANELI,  Chief Assistant  Attorney General,  Legal Services                                                               
Section, Criminal  Division, Department of Law,  testified to the                                                               
correctness of the previous witness'  assertion that the duration                                                               
of detention would only be as  long as required to determine what                                                               
the individual  witnessed. If  the person  had not  seen anything                                                               
relevant to the crime that occurred,  he or she would be released                                                               
soon  thereafter. Mr.  Guaneli expected  the length  of detention                                                               
would be  minutes rather than  hours. Suspects could be  held for                                                               
longer periods, but  witnesses could only be held  long enough to                                                               
gather   information.   Courts   would    require   this   as   a                                                               
constitutional matter.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Guaneli  then   spoke  to  the  necessity   to  obtain  both                                                               
photographs  and fingerprints  of  the witness.  The database  of                                                               
known   fingerprints   that   would    be   used   to   determine                                                               
identification is  limited to those arrested  for crimes, certain                                                               
job applicants,  state license  holders, etc.  If a  subpoena was                                                               
issued and  the witness  failed to appear,  the ability  of using                                                               
fingerprints to assist  in locating the person  would be limited.                                                               
Photographs would  better assist law enforcement  in locating the                                                               
witness.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson   asked  how  this  legislation   would  apply  in                                                               
situations involving  a "distraught" witness in  which the victim                                                               
was a loved one.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:19:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Guaneli   replied  that  police  encounter   this  situation                                                               
frequently and  consideration is given to  the circumstances. The                                                               
witness is  allowed to  accompany the victim  to the  hospital if                                                               
necessary.  This  legislation would  apply  to  those wanting  to                                                               
leave the scene of a crime specifically to avoid identification.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:20:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde offered a motion  to report CS SB 206, 24-LS1197\X,                                                               
from  Committee with  individual recommendations  and new  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There  was no  objection  and  CS SB  206  (FIN)  was MOVED  from                                                               
Committee  with four  new zero  fiscal notes:  one dated  3/17/06                                                               
from the  Department of  Administration, Public  Defender Agency;                                                               
one dated  3/20/06 from the Department  of Administration, Office                                                               
of  Public Advocacy;  one dated  3/17/06 from  the Department  of                                                               
Law; and one dated 3/19/06 from the Department of Corrections.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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